Stop Censorship Now

The Ginger Valkyrie

Best way to get someone to change their minds!

  • Anti-Gay Person (AGP): No homo! Homosexuality is a sin!
  • Me: *ahem* 'Cuse me.
  • AGP: *with mild suspicion* Yes?
  • Me: I don't really want a fight with you, but I'd truly like to know why you think allowing a person to marry who they love is a sin.
  • AGP: *gives me a "are-you-fucking-crazy?" look*
  • Me: No, seriously. I want to understand your rationale.
  • AGP: Okay... well it says in the Bible "A man shall not lay with another man as he lays with a woman." Haven't you read the Bible before young lady?
  • Me: Actually I have...
  • AGP: Oh! So you're a true believer?!
  • Me: Nope. I'm a Jewish atheist. *can't help smug little smile*
  • AGP: Heathen.
  • Me: That's me. So, back to the point - you think homosexuality is wrong because it was written in the book of the Lord?
  • AGP: *firmly* Yes. The Good Lord passed His word among us for *all* of us to hear.
  • Me: Okay, fair enough. Do you know where Christianity sprang from? Y'know, the culture it originated in?
  • AGP: *looking confused but determined* Uh yeah. Rome of course. Why?
  • Me: Historical context. Homosexuality was outlawed for the exact same reason magic was outlawed in the Bible - because the pagan Romans were doing it.
  • AGP: It figures. Pagans and their nasty homo rituals.
  • Me: Actually, they practiced a thing called pederasty which is not at all homosexuality in the modern sense - it was a loving relationship between a dominant and a submissive male. Both of which enjoyed women. *to the sneering look on his face* Things were different then.
  • AGP: Disgusting! Thank the Lord Christianity came and brought the Lord's Grace.
  • Me: So, you think it's alright for men to beat women?
  • AGP: What? No, of course not. ...why?
  • Me: It was perfectly acceptable back in the 50s.
  • AGP: Well, times were different then.
  • Me: Oh so you mean historical context matters? *as non-sarcastically as possible*
  • AGP: *opens mouth to answer and then closes it - several times*
  • Me: *looks to anti-gay sign* Next time think before you believe blindly. *walk away feeling unbelievably smug*
  • First of all, yes this did actually happen - an anti-gay protester decided to be a human being long enough to have a conversation. I'm not saying I changed his mind about gays or gay rights, but I got him to *think* (I hope). Thinking is one of the greatest things we can do for ourselves and yet, sometimes, seldom done.
  • As an aside: do you have any idea how hard it is to keep cool, calm, and jovial during a conversation like this? I attempted to add in the non-verbal context, but his whole demeanor was one of thinly disguised hate and disgust. The "young lady" part was incredibly patronizing! I almost stopped there, but it was worth the temporary aggravation.

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    amazing. Good for you. :]
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